scribia & rank counting

[Talin]

Hello,

I hope this kind of question is ok for this forum. Else let me know, please.

i am using scribia by now. I find it very nice. I wonder though, whether it can keep track, when I get more ranks than a certain teacher can cover. Like when I trained diggin, and reached the 5 rank mark, and go on getting ranks, what then.

If I am right, those 'additional' ranks get counted on the next trainer I am choosing. What does Scribia do about them?

Also, is there a way to get 'unlog-ged activities' to scribia? I had to delete my prefs-file once, and forgot to mark 'saving text log' again, it seems to me, that all the ranks I made then, did not appear in scribia.

tx alot!
Talin

[Kiriel]

Well once you get 5 ranks of Diggin you can't get anymore till you switch to another trainer. Any experience you get while you're maxed out on a trainer just gets stored up and you'll get those ranks normally when you switch trainers. All Scribia does is look for the messages you get when you receive ranks, so it should find them just like normal.

You can't automatically import information into Scribia that you didn't log, but you can edit your Scribia ranks, so you could make an educated guess about what the right numbers are and update them. That's usually what I do if I manage to lose logs (and what I did when I started tracking ranks after a few months of playing since I didn't know to save logs until after a while). If you're not sure how much you could try talking to the trainers to see what range you're in.

This sort of question is perfectly fine for the forum, welcome to it!

[Talin]

Thanks alot, Kiriel! I am relieved!

Talin

[Sunoril]

Originally posted by Kiriel
All Scribia does is look for the messages you get when you receive ranks, so it should find them just like normal.

You can't automatically import information into Scribia that you didn't log, but you can edit your Scribia ranks, so you could make an educated guess about what the right numbers are and update them. That's usually what I do if I manage to lose logs (and what I did when I started tracking ranks after a few months of playing since I didn't know to save logs until after a while). If you're not sure how much you could try talking to the trainers to see what range you're in.

This sort of question is perfectly fine for the forum, welcome to it!

This is an old thread, but I just got here, and my questions seem to fit the topic, so...

I've been saving logs, and importing them into Scribia as soon as I stop clanning, and I've noticed a couple of things. Once, I viewed a movie, and then went clanning. What happened in the movie was logged, so when I imported that log into Scribia, the stuff in the movie was added to my experiences. So I edited the log file, deleted the Scribia file, and re-imported all the applicable logs. Now I try to be careful about what gets imported. The other thing is that I started out training with Master Bodrus, got about 2 ranks, according to Scribia, and then met up with Clancy, who introduced me to Diggin. So I trained with Diggin until he couldn't train me any more, and then went back to Master Bodrus. I trained about two more ranks with him, but now he says "It is good to see you," which seems to say I have at least 10 ranks with him. Not sure how that happened, since Scribia only accounted for four. Is this normal? Should I count myself as having ten ranks?

[Kiriel]

You definitely need to be careful to get rid of any logs from movies when importing into Scribia. Also, if you have multiple characters then you need to separate those logs before importing since Scribia can't tell which char they're for. I'm not sure why your Bodrus ranks are so high- are you sure you didn't get some that you didn't notice? Another possibility is that you trained another trainer that may have affected your rating- such as Evus. Anyone else have any other ideas why?

[Drablak]

You also need to be careful if you ask one of the people in the libs that offer you to apply a bunch of ranks at once.

Personally I stopped using Scribia a long time ago and note ranks by hand :)

Drablak

[Sunoril]

I've spoken to other trainers, but unless I'm mistaken, Diggin and Bodrus are the only ones I've actually trained with. I have made a habit of checking with the guy in the library every time I start clanning, and that may be where the problem is, if Scribia doesn't pick up on that.

It's not a big deal, really, I'd just kind of like to know where I stand.
[;)]

The other thing is that I seem to find it harder to hit rats now than I did earlier, and my spirit doesn't recover as fast. That may be my imagination, but if it isn't, can anyone suggest what I should do about it?

[Kiriel]

The speed trainer folks in the library don't actually give you just one rank at a time- I believe they give you up to 8- they give them to you in batches. It's useful if you don't care about tracking your ranks and just want to get them fast, but if you want to track your ranks then don't use them. That's most likely the confusion you're running into if you ever used them.

The part about hitting rats is unlikely to be any change in your skills- you're just probably having an unlucky day. However if you train bodrus you do eventually start to lose swings from it because of the balance of atkus, swengus and darkus he gives, so that can affect the amount of chances you'd get to hit.

Also keep in mind that between 6-9pm PDT the fps on the server goes from 4 to 3, which makes a lot of things seem slower and requires different swing timing, so if you alternate between hunting at that time and other times, you may feel some differences relating to that.

[Sunoril]

Thanks, Kiriel. I haven't paid much attention to what time I've been clanning, so that may be what's causing my difficulties - or perceived difficulties - with rats.

I'll try to be more careful of the librarians. :-)

[Archemar]

Hello,

When I learn ZO with Vor'harn scribius does think I spend only 11 ranks, however I speak ZO! (I was lucky 15 ranks were enough, nowdays I believe 25 ranks are needed)

Skae has greet me for a long time by a 'keeping on my toes' while I count only 90 lessons. (either scribus or hand counted). On a side note Deli, Darad, Mute and some other hunt pass some puddledays ago, I was unable to get one, *one* coin from a skin !!

I now for a fact I might have mess some log files as Archemar get once a Aktus rank!!

Hence, you'd better trust what teacher said than scribia/scribius.

Archemar.

PS: stay in tune, I will post a comparison of hand counted scribia and scribius ....(that is as soon as I get home)

[Kirth Gersen]

Drablak wisely wrote:
Personally I stopped using Scribia a long time ago and note ranks by hand :)

Aye, so did I, immediately after seeing that Scribia counted like a Hyrios wine-merchant. Counting the trainings by hand is quite manageable after the first Season or so. When you become a Master, you will not have to write so often, and when you are called Lord, you probably need to update your lesson counting scroll less than once every other day.

There is a tool that is worth mentioning here. The PSA Rank Tracker (http://www.puddleby.info/rt.t) service. See if you like it.

/Kirth

[Konoko]

I use Scribus myself. I've never had any problems with it but I closely manage and watch my log files so that may be why I haven't had probs.

I've been meaning to switch over to Scribia (it's so much faster!) but haven't gotten into the grove with that yet.

With your log files and if you have multiple characters, I find the best way to keep log files separate so you don't have to manually edit them, is to quit clan lord in between switching chars so that a fresh log is started each time rather than appending to the current log.

Also, if you timeout due to inactivity and rejoin, you will need to edit your files so that scribus works correctly with the "view most recent log" or whatever it is. If you timeout and then rejoin and it says welcome back, then you just have to edit out the "no longer clanning" and the welcome back lines so that it will be one huge log file (which it technically is).

However, if you timeout and then rejoin and it says xxx is now clanning rather than welcome back, then in the eyes of the server, you are really in 2 different sessions. I usually go and divide the log into separate logs if this happens (you don't really have to do this but as I said I am nitpicky about the logs).


Also, scribus does not have all the trainer messages. But you can add more and edit others using resedit.

I'm sure scribia is more uptodate with trainers but I don't know if there's a way to add or edit messages or if you have to wait for a new version.


I don't use scribus for other things like counting vanqs, dispatches, etc cause it can't unless you use resedit to change the slaughter counters to count vanqs or something.

Konoko

[Sunoril]

Originally posted by Kirth Gersen

Aye, so did I, immediately after seeing that Scribia counted like a Hyrios wine-merchant. Counting the trainings by hand is quite manageable after the first Season or so. When you become a Master, you will not have to write so often, and when you are called Lord, you probably need to update your lesson counting scroll less than once every other day.

There is a tool that is worth mentioning here. The PSA Rank Tracker (http://www.puddleby.info/rt.t) service. See if you like it.

/Kirth

I'll keep that in mind about doing it by hand - but I'm inherently lazy. If there's a tool that will do it for me, I'd rather use the tool.

BTW, I haven't heard of this scribus or scribius alternative. Where can I find it?

I did find the Rank Tracker, and I'm using it. But as far as I can see, it requires manual entry of ranks, so you kind of have to know where you are. [:)]

[Himitsu]

Originally posted by Sunoril
I did find the Rank Tracker, and I'm using it. But as far as I can see, it requires manual entry of ranks, so you kind of have to know where you are. [:)]

That's why I like training until the trainer's message changes. Partially because I like having a confirmation of how far I've gotten and partially to confirm my counting of how many trainings I have with a particular trainer.

[Delirium]

The only way I keep track of my ranks is to train until the message changes. I stoped keeping an exact count long long ago.

[Lex]

Just so you know, some fighter trainers contain bits of other trainers you wouldn't expect. I trained straight darkus for a while and my regia message went up. Before I ever trained Evus I got a "better pupil" message from swengus after 47 ranks (hand counted - not using scribia). However, I had also trained atkus which probably contained enough swengus to put me over 50.

Lex

[Unregistered]

Lex,

that extra three Swengus may have been natural ability that you just started with.

T'rr'll

[Lex]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Lex,

that extra three Swengus may have been natural ability that you just started with.

T'rr'll

I don't think it works that way. A zo starts out with probably 40-50 more darkus than I do, and maybe just as much histia, but they don't get any other darkus or histia message than "much to learn" before they train any ranks.

Lex

[Konoko]

Something I thought of for degradation messages: when it comes to rank counting, don't accidentally count extra ranks!

The degradation messages mean you lose a rank in one of the weapons (it tells you which one) so make sure to go back and edit your ranks. When I got the degradation message, I was already training in the fell so I just relearned it.

I have Scribus set up to have the degradation message act as a trainer message so when I get one, I remember to edit the appropriate 3rd circle specialty weapon rank count.

I don't know how Scribia handles this...

Konoko