Slypha & Horus

[Sargon]

Hi!

I have a question for the healers! Did you ever consider training with Slypha? I fail to see why I should spend some ranks with her but maybe I'm missing something. I've heard that slyphstones heal a bit slower than moonstones. They heal constantly I think but I could achieve that with a simple macro for the moonstone as well. (although this is an ooc-solution to an ic-problem)

Did I miss something? :)

Also I'm tempted to train with Horus a bit. (I hate being the only healer and the fallen is 'quite'..) I'm wondering how many ranks are needed approx to go from "little" to "quite"?

Um.. I hope these kind of questions are ok for this forum? But if you think these questions don't belong here and/or I should find out by myself and shut up, please let me know! :)

Sargon :)

[Aerick]

'Course you should ask.

Mostly, I find the Slyphstone to have been a waste of my ranks. Sometimes, it helps a tiny bit when I'm fighting or cadding. That's the big strength of the ring, that you can heal yourself without a moonstone in hand. It IS slow, but if you regain spirit while cadding, it prevents you from wasting the spirit you've regained. If you use your moonstone almost all the time, I wouldn't bother with the Slyphstone. If you find you fight a lot, and can't switch to your moonstone due to the balance tax, then consider the Slyphstone.

That said, I have to point out that there are healers who adore the ring, and will strongly encourage you to get one. Different opinions, no right answer.

[Sargon]

Hm.. not sure if I understood you, Aerick. Are you saying that with "slyphstone+cad" you can heal someone else and _at the same time_ heal yourself too, whereas with "moonstone+cad" you can either heal someone else _or_ heal yourself?

If this is the case I would consider slyphstones as soon as I have a cad. (translation: in 2 years :)

[Konoko]

As I fighter I'm going to say get LOTS of horus! ALL healers should get lots of horus!

Someone has to be able to raise all of us fighters after we fall fighting some huge battle. Or get massacred fighting something we shouldn't have been messing with... :)

So to sum up, get lots of horus! :)

Konoko
(who hopes the healers won't get upset at a non-healer giving advice... :)

[Sargon]

/giggles at Konoko :)

Well.. of course if I had 2000 ranks to spend on all the trainers available I would spend a considerable amount to Horus. But since I make 0.75 ranks a day and intend to reach 3rd within a reasonable timespan I tend to spend the ranks on Eva and thelike. I know, I'm terribly selfish. =)

Sargon

[Aerick]

The cad is held in one's right hand, and cannot be used on the healer using it. So if you are cadding, you cannot heal yourself at the same time, unless you have a Slyphstone ring.
The Slyohstone ring 'fires' a self-heal pulse whenever your spirit reaches its maximum, so you never sit around with injuries and full spirit. This is especially good if you regain spirit but not health while cadding, as the Slyphstone keeps you healthy longer.

As far as Horus goes, I do recommend it. I have very little, and often feel kinda foolish when I finally get to the far side of the moon, and can't heal the person. Especially if you want to be a rescue healer, you need to be able to heal the people you find, who have probably been chewed on by rats and are never in very good shape.
Or, instead of Horus, you could train half as much Loovma, and ALWAYS be able to get the person up (courtesy of a quick stop by town).
10-20 Horus has helped me a bunch in the areas around the farms and fields. I think it's a decent amount to work with, but I'll be getting more (right after I get 4

[Kiriel]

I recommend getting 20-50 Horus. That should reduce most of the easy cases to a healable state, and doesn't make a huge dent in your other skills. You could try applying the same rule some folks do with Loovma. They train one Loovma rank every time a chain breaks. You could train one Horus rank everytime you can't heal someone. (Come to think of it, maybe I'll apply that rule to my healer- she has 50 now, but a little more couldn't hurt!)

Regarding Slypha, it depends on your healing style. Like Aerick says, it's potentially useful for cadding but that's only really a factor when you're 3rd circle. If you get into the habit of chaining it's nice for that too, because you can keep your strength up while chaining fallens. Slypha isn't the most impressive thing in the world, but I think it's a nice thing to have- it's not a huge amount of ranks, and it gives you one less thing to worry about when you're running around killing rats on a fallen or chaining someone or just running for your life. It just depends on whether it'll help your healing style much.

[Althus]

First of all, I'd just like to point out that it's SYLPHa and SYLPHstone not SLYPHa and SLYPHstone. Second, concerning them, since you don't fight that much, Sargon, I'd advise against it. Unless you plan to be using a weapon a lot, Sylphstones are a waste.

As for Horus, you need at least 50 to make a real difference, that'll be about right for 'quites.' To raise 'little's, about 100 works. That's plenty, unless you want to specialize on Horus, that is.

--Awfus

[Konoko]

Was this ring named after Slyph?
Is that the point you're making Althus?

Was it her idea? Is that why she got the privilege of having something named after her?

[Sargon]

I think that the trainer is called Sylpha but the ring/stone is called Slyphstone. I will verify that this evening. I don't think the names have anything to do with the exile Slyph, but then what do I know. =)

And many thanks for the answers! I'm still a bit shocked that it requires about 50 ranks for one level (little->quite) though! =)

Sargon

[Aerick]

You, Althus, of all people, should recognize that Slyph is WAY hotter than the cheap ring they swindle you for in the healer's temple, and that I, for one, would much rather think on her than the blister the durned ill-sized circlet gave me. So there.

-Aerick, hoping SOMEone buys his lame excuse... =)


Konoko, I don't know of any correlation. Althus' point was that the two are spelled differently, which indicates them not being related. I do know that the exile Eva (whom I don't care for too much due to ooc-ness in town square) came after the trainer Eva.

[Lilly]

When i was a newbie I asked slyph if she was involved with the ring at all. she said she was not.

Arteress Lai

[Sargon]

Ok.. I just checked and Althus, you are right. :) (How could I have thought otherwise..) The trainer is called "Sylpha" and the ringis called "Sylphstone ring".

[Doc]

For some reason, one of these was on my finger when I arrived on this island.

I've always wondered what it does exactly. I've noticed some of the effects that Althus has mentioned, and if those are because of that ring thing, then that's great! Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Doc

[Corwin]

At last! Halfling healer training secrets revealed for the first time!

I did train Sylpa - a little auto self heal is better than default self heal. And the 30 ranks didn't take that long...

I did train some Awaria (50) - with my Faustus getting higher, I'm seeing the need for a lot of Sespus when I use my Awaria training. (Sespus says it's good to see me, just to give you an idea of how little I've trained there)

I haven't trained Horus yet because I don't need it to pass the test for 3rd